Martin Geddes donated @martingeddes
08 August, 09:05
Did we become, de facto, associate members of a secret society by participating in (and supporting) the Q op?

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Fight_for_Life @Fight_for_Life
08 August, 10:09
In response Martin Geddes to his Publication
I am more concerned about organized crime than secret societies. If members of secret societies are criminals, then it seems like it would be in the interest of the secret societies to expel them before they bring the house down. I am not in any secret society, this is simply my observation.

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Water Mark @Watermark
08 August, 10:28
In response Fight_for_Life to her Publication
Most of these secret societies are organized crime by intention. The have no interest in expelling 'smart' criminals (though they may sacrifice some dumb ones to keep non-corrupt police at bay). The lower rungs of members may not be aware but the upper echelons are gangsters.

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Fight_for_Life @Fight_for_Life
08 August, 10:41
In response Water Mark to his Publication
I understand what you are saying and while I can see the logic in this perspective, I also think it is natural for people to form groups to protect themselves and their interests. This happens everywhere whether it be gangs, or the local nonprofit for this ethnicity or that ethnicity, or the church, or the HOA, the fraternity, sorority, humanist group, or the gardening club. Do we consider them secret societies or organized crime because unless you belong to those groups, and many of them do have criteria to belong, do you really know what they are doing or what they are about and whether you would agree with what they are doing? (Did you buy a home where there is an HOA?) What is the difference between what we call secret societies and similar groups that we do not call secret but we have no idea what they are doing or maybe we do and we can see it is not beneficial but they are doing it in your face because nobody is stopping them?

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Water Mark @Watermark
I think we are thinking of vastly different levels of secret societies. Masons, Templars, Rosicrucians, and Kahzars are not remotely on the same level of college fraternities or HOA's.

Have you read "The Secret Covenant" (sometimes called "The Protocols of Zion")?
12:05 PM - Aug 08, 2023
In response Fight_for_Life to her Publication
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Fight_for_Life @Fight_for_Life
08 August, 12:23
In response Water Mark to his Publication
I am familiar with the protocols and I hear what you are saying. Where I am less convinced is who is creating the narrative that points to certain groups and who their allegiance is to.

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