TheStormIsUponUs @stormis_us
@stormis_us
08 March, 02:50
The Vatican changed Gods day of rest from Saturday to Sunday. “Nowhere in the Bible do we find that Jesus or the apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given at creation then to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is, the Seventh day of the week, Saturday. Today, all Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the [Roman] church outside the Bible.” Catholic Virginian, Oct. 3, 1947
“You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctified.” James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (1917 ed.), pp.72,73
“If protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath Day, that is Saturday. In keeping Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.”
“You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctified.” James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (1917 ed.), pp.72,73
“If protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath Day, that is Saturday. In keeping Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.”
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Love Horses
@Horsesrgreat
08 March, 03:33
In response TheStormIsUponUs @stormis_us to his Publication
Actually, Martin Luther believed the Apostles did it because they were the only ones with the authority to do so. And, it was done early on - recorded in the Book of Acts.
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wht 2.0
@wht
08 March, 04:45
In response Love Horses to her Publication
No man has authority to change God's law
Written in STONE by His very own finger?!!
Written in STONE by His very own finger?!!
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Love Horses
@Horsesrgreat
08 March, 09:08
In response wht 2.0 to his Publication
Except Jesus fulfilled the Law for us & we are free from condemnation. The Apostles didn't change the Law when they started worshipping on Sunday instead of the Sabboth (Sat). They did it because Christ rose from the dead on the 1st day of the week. So now, every Sunday is Reserrection Sunday. Christ fulfilled the Law so we don't have to. We are free from its obligations in Christ.
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wht 2.0
@wht
08 March, 10:19
In response Love Horses to her Publication
That's a common but grave mis-reading of Romans.
"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law" Rom3:31
Jesus said:
"If you love me keep my commandments" Jn14:15
"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him" Jn14:21
from Revelation:
"Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev14:12
"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" Rev12:17
Eternity of the Sabbath:
"For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me [..] it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD." Is66:22
"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law" Rom3:31
Jesus said:
"If you love me keep my commandments" Jn14:15
"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him" Jn14:21
from Revelation:
"Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev14:12
"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" Rev12:17
Eternity of the Sabbath:
"For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me [..] it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD." Is66:22
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Love Horses
@Horsesrgreat
09 March, 12:17
In response wht 2.0 to his Publication
I'm not saying the Law is voided. I'm saying that Jesus fulfilled the Law for us. If you understand Paul's writing, especially Gallatians, you know what I'm saying.
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wht 2.0
@wht
09 March, 12:58
In response Love Horses to her Publication
But arent you using that idea to justify ignoring the 4th commandment or supplanting it with Sunday?
In justifying Sunday worship you said we are 'free from its (the law 'fulfilled by Christ') obligation'. Does that apply to the 1st, 2nd and so forth? Ok if someone dates your spouse?
People only use that argument as regards the Sabbath ... but murder .. stealing? .. we still *have* to keep those.
In justifying Sunday worship you said we are 'free from its (the law 'fulfilled by Christ') obligation'. Does that apply to the 1st, 2nd and so forth? Ok if someone dates your spouse?
People only use that argument as regards the Sabbath ... but murder .. stealing? .. we still *have* to keep those.
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Love Horses
@Horsesrgreat
09 March, 01:13
In response wht 2.0 to his Publication
I get where you're coming from because I went thru all those thoughts when I was trying to find an answer for a friend on WHY the 7th Day Adventists worship on the Sabboth & not Sun. I did ALOT of research and came to the decision that the 2nd Commandment applied to the Jews before Chris, not to Christians. I know I'll get alot of flak for that, but research Seventh Day Adventist Sabboth, read arguments pro & con & decide for yourself.
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Yes well, bottom-line, the answer to the 'it's for the Jews' argument has to do with the question 'where did the 7 day week originate?' There is no 'natural' (ie; no observational 'celestial' 7 day cycle has ever been found that could account for it for instance) or historical answer to that other than the Biblical creation week narrative.
Given that now read Genesis 2:1-3 and note that God not only *singularly* BLESSED the 7th day apart from the other 6 but He also 'sanctified' the 7th day which means 'set apart for Holy use or purpose'.
Then carefully read the Exodus20 rendition of the 4th commandment as written *by God* in *stone* and given Moses. Not only does it begin with the word "remember" making clear it was already *known* (even practiced in Egypt by the Hebrews who you'll recall were considered 'lazy' by the Pharaoh likely because they refused to work on that day) but it's language mirrors and points directly *back* to creation week before there ever were any "Je
Given that now read Genesis 2:1-3 and note that God not only *singularly* BLESSED the 7th day apart from the other 6 but He also 'sanctified' the 7th day which means 'set apart for Holy use or purpose'.
Then carefully read the Exodus20 rendition of the 4th commandment as written *by God* in *stone* and given Moses. Not only does it begin with the word "remember" making clear it was already *known* (even practiced in Egypt by the Hebrews who you'll recall were considered 'lazy' by the Pharaoh likely because they refused to work on that day) but it's language mirrors and points directly *back* to creation week before there ever were any "Je
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In response Love Horses to her Publication
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wht 2.0
@wht
09 March, 06:36
In response wht 2.0 to his Publication
before there were ever any 'Jews'
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