Finally .. the whole subject is so deep and rich w/ scriptural support.

"precept upon precept, line upon line ... here a little there a little"

We even have John in vision on Patmos being shown the heavenly sanctuary (the one the earthly was but a copy .. patterned after the heavenly as testified by Paul in Heb8:5) with the "ark of [God's] testament" within

"And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings .. " Rev11:19

What could that "ark of testament" BE other than the *original* ark/mercy seat of God containing His 'testament' ... His 10 commandment law .. where it still resides to this day.

No my friend there's really no way around the 7th Day Sabbath Truth than by vain and false doctrines of man.

I understand the *reason* (excuse) for keeping Sun-day/1st day in recognition of Jesus' resurrection but as good a *reason* as it may be there IS *no* scriptural support for 1st day sacredn

1st day sacredness

Then besides the argument given below one must consider what is the criteria of being a "Jew" in the first place.

Being 'Abraham's seed' yes? The 'son's and daughters of Abraham' and so forth which Paul goes into great detail making clear that if we are *in Christ Jesus* we are then also Abraham's seed ... 'grafted in' ... the 'adopted in' and 'natural branches' and 'root of the vine' and all that yes?

And even those 'natural branches, those "Jews" by blood, that rejected Jesus were liable to be cut off and burned in the fire etc.

No ... Jesus kept ALL the commandments of His father not so we no longer would have to but as our EXAMPLE of what is expected ... unto eternity ... of a child of God.

Afterall God's commandments reveal HIS CHARACTER.

How KEY has been *obedience* throughout the entire history of God's people? ... all the way back to the garden?

It's really not complicated.

It's been God's enemy who has made it so.

It *IS* written ... quite plain

Yeah, we aren't even talking about the same thing or on the same page.

Yes well, bottom-line, the answer to the 'it's for the Jews' argument has to do with the question 'where did the 7 day week originate?' There is no 'natural' (ie; no observational 'celestial' 7 day cycle has ever been found that could account for it for instance) or historical answer to that other than the Biblical creation week narrative.

Given that now read Genesis 2:1-3 and note that God not only *singularly* BLESSED the 7th day apart from the other 6 but He also 'sanctified' the 7th day which means 'set apart for Holy use or purpose'.

Then carefully read the Exodus20 rendition of the 4th commandment as written *by God* in *stone* and given Moses. Not only does it begin with the word "remember" making clear it was already *known* (even practiced in Egypt by the Hebrews who you'll recall were considered 'lazy' by the Pharaoh likely because they refused to work on that day) but it's language mirrors and points directly *back* to creation week before there ever were any "Je

before there were ever any 'Jews'