to take it all down down down. medical society totally.. i am thankful.. and i was in it but not in their arena at all my whole 50 years.. hated it . saw it but i was alone.. what could i do? take care of my patients to the best of my abilities within the realm of their medicine. went to OB because i could at least encourage labor and delivery without the use of drugs etc, natural delivery.. docs did notice my patients did better than most and had the least c/s ratios which of course they didnt like.. less money.. i tried but after 15 years i just couldnt do it any more.. i was not appreciated. didnt understand why then but do now.. i was again the black sheep. it was my passion. i learned about how magnificent God was in creating the birthing process.. so well defined, it blew my mind.. i saw or felt a change in the hospital venue. glad i did.but missed my blessed job. that was 25 years ago i could see the changes.