29 December, 03:43
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Sauce please!
Her vid is pure hearsay without supporting documentation. If her hubby got notified it will be in writing so lets see that before crying wolf.
Her vid is pure hearsay without supporting documentation. If her hubby got notified it will be in writing so lets see that before crying wolf.
04:25 PM - Dec 29, 2023
In response Carole Parnell to her Publication
Only people mentioned by DANMARTIN17 in this post can reply
Bob Enslow
@cmbwsu
30 December, 10:03
In response DAN MARTIN to his Publication
On December 27, 2023, the bureau, abbreviated as the ATF, categorically denied such a change. The claim contained several other false statements previously debunked by Lead Stories.
https://leadstories.com/ho...
https://leadstories.com/ho...
Fact Check: ATF Background Check Was NOT Updated To Authorize 'Illegal Immigrants' To Purchase Firearms | Lead Stories
Was the mechanism of the background check conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to screen potential...
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DAN MARTIN
@DANMARTIN17
30 December, 11:30
In response Bob Enslow to his Publication
Thank you. I did my own research before reading your post and came to the same conclusion after downloading all the current forms. Wish I would have read your reply first would have saved me a lot of time and reading but it's nice to know for sure we haven't gone full Banana Republic yet lol.
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30 December, 09:14
In response DAN MARTIN to his Publication
ATF Form 4473
ATF has cited memorandum of the AG as source and requirement for these changes. ATF asserts that these changes are necessary to comply with the purpose in the memorandum to prevent STATES from creating more stringent requirements on aliens than those of citizens. The AG memorandum does not make this assertion, nor does the memorandum support such reasoning. Finally, the AG in issuing their memorandum has made it easier for transient immigrants who are not loyal to the laws of this land to buy, transport, and ship guns and ammunition than for US Citizens. The ATF in enforcing the AG’s standards has claimed that the states have no right to do anything about it
http://192.145.235.93/~kri...
Updated ATF Form 4473 - Firearms Transaction Record (August 2023 Revisions)
Notice Regarding Recent Changes to the ATF Form 4473
https://www.atf.gov/firear...
ATF has cited memorandum of the AG as source and requirement for these changes. ATF asserts that these changes are necessary to comply with the purpose in the memorandum to prevent STATES from creating more stringent requirements on aliens than those of citizens. The AG memorandum does not make this assertion, nor does the memorandum support such reasoning. Finally, the AG in issuing their memorandum has made it easier for transient immigrants who are not loyal to the laws of this land to buy, transport, and ship guns and ammunition than for US Citizens. The ATF in enforcing the AG’s standards has claimed that the states have no right to do anything about it
http://192.145.235.93/~kri...
Updated ATF Form 4473 - Firearms Transaction Record (August 2023 Revisions)
Notice Regarding Recent Changes to the ATF Form 4473
https://www.atf.gov/firear...
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DAN MARTIN
@DANMARTIN17
30 December, 11:18
In response Carole Parnell to her Publication
First thank you for the sauce.
The problem is we are talking apples and oranges. The language used in the Gun Control Act of 1968 and the forms is referring to immigrants LEGALLY in the USA either by visitors visa or work or college visa and DOES NOT APPLY to ILLEGAL ALIIENS ie. those here without a visa or other legal means. The purpose of the change was to clarify how nonimmigrants in the USA LEGALLY will be treated.
I included the portion of the CURRENT FORM 4473 and the restriction against ILLEGAL ALIENS buying guns is highlighted.
The summary by KrisAnne Hall from 2012 is flawed and worded in such a way as to imply that illegal aliens can purchase a firearm when in fact the rule is referring to NONIMMIGRANTS legally admitted to the United States.
This persons hubby better consult a lawyer if he intends to sell to illegal aliens and then claim the ATF made him do it because IMHO he will go to jail and lose his License.
The problem is we are talking apples and oranges. The language used in the Gun Control Act of 1968 and the forms is referring to immigrants LEGALLY in the USA either by visitors visa or work or college visa and DOES NOT APPLY to ILLEGAL ALIIENS ie. those here without a visa or other legal means. The purpose of the change was to clarify how nonimmigrants in the USA LEGALLY will be treated.
I included the portion of the CURRENT FORM 4473 and the restriction against ILLEGAL ALIENS buying guns is highlighted.
The summary by KrisAnne Hall from 2012 is flawed and worded in such a way as to imply that illegal aliens can purchase a firearm when in fact the rule is referring to NONIMMIGRANTS legally admitted to the United States.
This persons hubby better consult a lawyer if he intends to sell to illegal aliens and then claim the ATF made him do it because IMHO he will go to jail and lose his License.
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In response DAN MARTIN to his Publication
Yeah, was already thinking what collaborating evidence can we find.
The laws to allow illegal aliens to be police would be on record.
Was also thinking, how does a gun store owner know someone is illegal? Couldn't anyone just buy a firearm without documentation?
The laws to allow illegal aliens to be police would be on record.
Was also thinking, how does a gun store owner know someone is illegal? Couldn't anyone just buy a firearm without documentation?
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30 December, 09:14
In response mars 1776 to his Publication
ATF Form 4473
ATF has cited memorandum of the AG as source and requirement for these changes. ATF asserts that these changes are necessary to comply with the purpose in the memorandum to prevent STATES from creating more stringent requirements on aliens than those of citizens. The AG memorandum does not make this assertion, nor does the memorandum support such reasoning. Finally, the AG in issuing their memorandum has made it easier for transient immigrants who are not loyal to the laws of this land to buy, transport, and ship guns and ammunition than for US Citizens. The ATF in enforcing the AG’s standards has claimed that the states have no right to do anything about it
http://192.145.235.93/~kri...
Updated ATF Form 4473 - Firearms Transaction Record (August 2023 Revisions)
Notice Regarding Recent Changes to the ATF Form 4473
https://www.atf.gov/firear...
ATF has cited memorandum of the AG as source and requirement for these changes. ATF asserts that these changes are necessary to comply with the purpose in the memorandum to prevent STATES from creating more stringent requirements on aliens than those of citizens. The AG memorandum does not make this assertion, nor does the memorandum support such reasoning. Finally, the AG in issuing their memorandum has made it easier for transient immigrants who are not loyal to the laws of this land to buy, transport, and ship guns and ammunition than for US Citizens. The ATF in enforcing the AG’s standards has claimed that the states have no right to do anything about it
http://192.145.235.93/~kri...
Updated ATF Form 4473 - Firearms Transaction Record (August 2023 Revisions)
Notice Regarding Recent Changes to the ATF Form 4473
https://www.atf.gov/firear...
Full Analysis of ATF Form 4473 2012 - KrisAnne Hall
Analysis of the changes between ATF Form 4473 Revised April 2012 And ATF Form 4473 Revised August 2008 By KrisAnne Hall Summary available here.            Printable version here.   ATF has made several changes to their Form 4473, Firearms Transaction Record Part I- Over-the Counter. ATF has cited..
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