I had to learn all this the hard way. I read Behold a Pale Horse years ago. Before Q. I was loving the book until I got to the chapter about the Vatacin. I but the book down and stopped reading it. I wasn’t ready as a hard core Catholic. I finally picked the book up to finish it about four years ago. Was hard for me to swallow. Now I see things so clear. And lots more. Every thing I thought I knew was a big fat lie. But that helped me to understand how to take your time red pilling people.