Q2Infinity 5D Earth @Patriot_iss
05 October, 03:46
The Experiment Experience…or The Experience Experiment.
clif high
Oct 5

You’re involved.

Oh, not to the depth of Heidi and i, but you are involved.

You’re in this common shared reality experiment along with the rest of us. Most of y’all are here for the experience. Mostly you don’t recognize that you are the experiment experiencing itself as the subject of itself.

https://clifhigh.substack....

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wht 2.0 @wht
05 October, 09:36 (E)
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Cliff has some interesting information but there IS such a thing as being TOO 'smart' for your own good.
His personalized twist, all tricked out w/ his 'noo'-jargon, on the same 'ol new age/schmoo-age mumbo jumbo gets tiresome.

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Q2Infinity 5D Earth @Patriot_iss
06 October, 11:31
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I get what you mean — Clif’s language can definitely get dense sometimes.

For me though, I see value in the core ideas he’s exploring, even if the delivery isn’t everyone’s flavor. I like to pull out the essence underneath the “noo-jargon” — that life is a shared experiment in consciousness.

Whether you call it new age or just pattern recognition, I think there’s insight in how he connects dots others overlook.

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wht 2.0 @wht
I agree with your last statement.

The real issue w/ me, and tragedy I see in overly (misdirected) smart people like Clif is the "life is a shared experiment in consciousness" narrative.
Imo that's a coward's 'religion' of someone without the balls to just declare themselves a straight up atheist. Framing everything in *the universe* says .. or *the universe* does .
This cold "matrix" computer simulation "experiment" notion does nothing more than insinuate that the Creator is a sadistic ghoul playing around with people's REAL LIFE tragedies, pain and struggles. It's the very reason people HATE "God" ...

A complete and utter LIE in my opinion, either out of ignorance, ego driven desire to be one's own "god" .. or evil itself ... in actual service to a very real devil.

There's no 'half way' straw man 'universe' this and 'universe' that ... it's all or nothing.

The tragedy is that so many will follow that self centered pied piper pipe dream
10:45 PM - Oct 06, 2025 (E)
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Q2Infinity 5D Earth @Patriot_iss
10 October, 02:50
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I really appreciate you sharing your heart so openly. I can feel how deeply you care about truth and about honoring the Creator.

When I read what Clif wrote, I didn’t take it as denying God at all — more like describing how creation itself is alive and discovering through us. I see the “experiment” as a way of saying that God, Source, or the Universe (whatever name we use) is experiencing itself through every one of us.

To me that doesn’t make the Creator cold or cruel — it makes life more intimate, like we’re all part of the same heartbeat learning how to love through contrast and experience. I think you and I are probably reaching for the same truth, just using different language to touch it.

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wht 2.0 @wht
10 October, 10:15
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2/2

And the *Biblical* Creator, who it says is the creator *of* the 'universe', stands apart from His creation.
He existed prior to and if He so chose to destroy it *all* .. HE would still remain. While His 'life force' (whatever that is, the Bible calls it His 'breath of life') animates all living things, it belongs to Him always and forever. We get just enough to 'be' who He created us to be, in order that we could know, experience, and join in relationship *with* Him. The use of such a word as 'experiment' seems to me to remove the 'heart' of the living God and His emotional, burning desire to have a *loving* FAMILY that permeates the Biblical narrative of who He is.

Those issues are such real, substantive and critical differences that open up such a wide gulf between them that is hard for me not to squawk about them!

May God bless us both on our path to greater understanding of Him and His ways.

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wht 2.0 @wht
10 October, 10:17 (E)
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Thank you for those very kind words my friend .. I really do appreciate them.

I hope we're on the same page, I'm just not sure we are. The crucial issue for me is strictly a Biblical one which Cliff's narrative completely negates, denies, and alters with all his talk about Vedic time scales, reincarnation, aliens, and the whole 'the Bible has been so changed as to be unreliable' arguments which (if the Bible, as it is, is true, and His enemy is as described within) might be exactly the kind of stuff he would put out in circulation.
Not that Cliff's a bad person or consciously or intentionally serves God's enemy. I truly believe he's sincere in his beliefs and means well, but as the saying goes 'the path to hell is paved with good intentions'.
The Bible's narrative is that God, the creator, *Himself*, presented *himself* in the *human person* known as Jesus which is not indicated, revealed or acknowledged in such language as 'source' and 'universe'.

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