One thing I have found over the decades, is freemasons in various orgs like to talk about it, lol. SO much for secret orgs, we all know now. 33rd degree told me as a kid, it was secret, I remember thinking not for long. LOL HERE we are, I find them despicable because I know the deal, it's a big old club and you couldn't pay me to be part of it. MARKED SAFE WITH MY SOUL INTACT>