26 September, 07:42
I've had this nasty cold/flu/CV the past three+ weeks that just won't let go. This is the third time in the past year and a half that I've been sick for weeks. I'm NEVER sick. If I do get sick, it's only for a couple of days. Never weeks.
I had a conversation with a coworker (vaxxed) who has also had this nasty thing. He said that since 2020 it seems like all of his colds are nastier and last longer.
Just curious - has anyone else noticed this? I'm wondering what they're doing to us. 😡
I had a conversation with a coworker (vaxxed) who has also had this nasty thing. He said that since 2020 it seems like all of his colds are nastier and last longer.
Just curious - has anyone else noticed this? I'm wondering what they're doing to us. 😡
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Jason Webber
@Haldir1970
26 September, 07:53
In response Bergers Book Reviews to her Publication
My apologies for asking but did you take the COVID injections OR are you in frequent close contact with people who are COVID injected?
If you are not COVID injections but ARE frequently in contact with people who have been injected, you might be dealing with infections due to spike protein exposure. I am serious.
Get some Ivermectin - if it’s the horse paste kind, start with a pencil eraser-sized dose, 2x per day. YOU CANNOT OVERDOSE WITH IVERMECTIN, but larger doses can result in greater herxing (effect of parasites migrating to extremities to try to escape being killed by the Ivermectin - effects include pain in joints and extremities, internal aches/pain, blurred or other vision issues - ALL NORMAL AND ALL TEMPORARY).
Also, there is a detox bath using BORAX - I’ll try to find the instructions, but you should be detoxifying your body. The Borax bath draws out spike proteins.
Stop physical contact with any COVID vaxxed person.
If you are not COVID injections but ARE frequently in contact with people who have been injected, you might be dealing with infections due to spike protein exposure. I am serious.
Get some Ivermectin - if it’s the horse paste kind, start with a pencil eraser-sized dose, 2x per day. YOU CANNOT OVERDOSE WITH IVERMECTIN, but larger doses can result in greater herxing (effect of parasites migrating to extremities to try to escape being killed by the Ivermectin - effects include pain in joints and extremities, internal aches/pain, blurred or other vision issues - ALL NORMAL AND ALL TEMPORARY).
Also, there is a detox bath using BORAX - I’ll try to find the instructions, but you should be detoxifying your body. The Borax bath draws out spike proteins.
Stop physical contact with any COVID vaxxed person.
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Laurie Wilson
@Micah6_8
27 December, 10:07
In response Jason Webber to his Publication
As a nurse, who takes ivermectin every 4 days and has since long before Covid hit (take for chronic Lyme disease and RA)...you can OD on it.
Take a proper dosage, but taking more than normal can destroy your liver. It can also cause neurological symptoms as well, including issues with speech and balance, memory, etc.
Ivermectin is a drug used worldwide, only here in the US do we think of it as a vet med only... It is one of the top 3 safest meds in the world, but you can still overdose on it, so use caution and dose yourself based on weight.
One dose can last up to 7 days as a preventative. If you are sick, you want it every day for 4 days straight and then every other day for a week, and then every 4 days or once a week after that.
I use it along with antibiotics to help my RA and the Lyme. Never got C.
HCQ, Flagyl, Fenbendazole and others work the same way. You can't take two at the same time, or liver damage.
Research, esp if you take other meds. Ivermectin = sa
Take a proper dosage, but taking more than normal can destroy your liver. It can also cause neurological symptoms as well, including issues with speech and balance, memory, etc.
Ivermectin is a drug used worldwide, only here in the US do we think of it as a vet med only... It is one of the top 3 safest meds in the world, but you can still overdose on it, so use caution and dose yourself based on weight.
One dose can last up to 7 days as a preventative. If you are sick, you want it every day for 4 days straight and then every other day for a week, and then every 4 days or once a week after that.
I use it along with antibiotics to help my RA and the Lyme. Never got C.
HCQ, Flagyl, Fenbendazole and others work the same way. You can't take two at the same time, or liver damage.
Research, esp if you take other meds. Ivermectin = sa
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You took the pill form I am guessing?
I would not normally argue with a medical professional (especially nurses who I believe to be far more capabale than most doctors); there IS a difference between the pills and the “horse paste.”
I know this about Ivermectin - it is derived from a FUNGUS that occurs naturally on vegetation, especially grass. When dogs (and cats) eat grass, they are getting this much-needed parasticide. As mammals we need this as well.
It is my understanding that the paste form is as close to this natural form of the fungus as we can
get. Larger doses CAN cause something called herxing, but NEVER organ damage.
The pill form - as with any product created by Big Pharma - likely contain other ingredients (over and above the Ivermectin) that may, in large doses - and over a long period of time - do harm.
Again, I am not arguing with you, but caveats and details such as the difference between the pill form (the pharmaceutical) and the paste form are
I would not normally argue with a medical professional (especially nurses who I believe to be far more capabale than most doctors); there IS a difference between the pills and the “horse paste.”
I know this about Ivermectin - it is derived from a FUNGUS that occurs naturally on vegetation, especially grass. When dogs (and cats) eat grass, they are getting this much-needed parasticide. As mammals we need this as well.
It is my understanding that the paste form is as close to this natural form of the fungus as we can
get. Larger doses CAN cause something called herxing, but NEVER organ damage.
The pill form - as with any product created by Big Pharma - likely contain other ingredients (over and above the Ivermectin) that may, in large doses - and over a long period of time - do harm.
Again, I am not arguing with you, but caveats and details such as the difference between the pill form (the pharmaceutical) and the paste form are
11:24 PM - Dec 27, 2022
In response Laurie Wilson to her Publication
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Laurie Wilson
@Micah6_8
28 December, 12:04
In response Jason Webber to his Publication
Ivermectin helps because of the parasitic aspect to auto immune. There are others too. Flagyl is a good one, stronger than ivermectin, but you can't take some meds with Flagyl. I get mine from overseas pharmacies without an Rx.
Fenbendazole is another one, it is also used to kill cancer cells and even the gov is looking into it and they are reporting on their websites about it. It helps with the parasitic effect too - and scientists are finding cancers are actually a parasite, so it makes sense that ivermectin, flagyl, fenbendazole, HCQ and all the OTC supplements like L-lysine, zinc, turmeric, Vit D3K2, etc all help fight parasites and 'viruses' (which again, we're finding there is no such thing as a virus, it's more like a parasite).
I could go on and on. I love that you researched and know so much, I like talking with people who have done their research and know where they are coming from! I don't think any of us know everything, together we learn more. People NEED to talk..
Fenbendazole is another one, it is also used to kill cancer cells and even the gov is looking into it and they are reporting on their websites about it. It helps with the parasitic effect too - and scientists are finding cancers are actually a parasite, so it makes sense that ivermectin, flagyl, fenbendazole, HCQ and all the OTC supplements like L-lysine, zinc, turmeric, Vit D3K2, etc all help fight parasites and 'viruses' (which again, we're finding there is no such thing as a virus, it's more like a parasite).
I could go on and on. I love that you researched and know so much, I like talking with people who have done their research and know where they are coming from! I don't think any of us know everything, together we learn more. People NEED to talk..
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Laurie Wilson
@Micah6_8
27 December, 11:55
In response Jason Webber to his Publication
There's some really good videos on youtube about this, and some amazing articles.
But of course, taking ivermectin and doxycycline/minocycline is cheap, big pharm doesn't make money off of it. So they have turned a therapy that has worked well since the 1930's to the 1970's.
Instead, they tell people with RA and other auto immune issues to take CANCER MEDS!!! Yep - take this methotrexate and these biologics, and yes they can cause infiltrative lung disease and multiple types of cancers, but it can slow the progression of the RA and other diseases...and oh by the way, one dose per week can be as high as $6k!!! So $24K per month. Plus they make many people very sick and miserable... Instead of using AP which is the exact opposite and is cheap and very effective when done long term...
Ergh.....
But of course, taking ivermectin and doxycycline/minocycline is cheap, big pharm doesn't make money off of it. So they have turned a therapy that has worked well since the 1930's to the 1970's.
Instead, they tell people with RA and other auto immune issues to take CANCER MEDS!!! Yep - take this methotrexate and these biologics, and yes they can cause infiltrative lung disease and multiple types of cancers, but it can slow the progression of the RA and other diseases...and oh by the way, one dose per week can be as high as $6k!!! So $24K per month. Plus they make many people very sick and miserable... Instead of using AP which is the exact opposite and is cheap and very effective when done long term...
Ergh.....
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Laurie Wilson
@Micah6_8
27 December, 11:49
In response Jason Webber to his Publication
Slowly increase the meds so the bacteria/fungus dies off slower, the body has more time to dump the dead cells, and the herx is less.
There is also a direct link with bacteria and a strange bacteria-parasite that is linked with autoimmune disease. This is why antibiotic protocol (AP) works for people with autoimmune like RA (rheumatoid arthritis). It literally kills the bacteria in the joints that cause the deformities seen with RA (curled disjointed fingers and toes, etc). It can take a year or more on AP before the bacteria-parasites are killed, any damage done to the joints is permanent, but it does progress unless the person stops the AP. So basically I'm on AP for life. Like tick diseases, those that cause autoimmue issues create cysts in the body where they hide and wait, and some future point when your body is stressed, they break open and flood the body and you have a new case to deal with. So staying on AP for life prevents those new cases.
Ivermectin helps too.
There is also a direct link with bacteria and a strange bacteria-parasite that is linked with autoimmune disease. This is why antibiotic protocol (AP) works for people with autoimmune like RA (rheumatoid arthritis). It literally kills the bacteria in the joints that cause the deformities seen with RA (curled disjointed fingers and toes, etc). It can take a year or more on AP before the bacteria-parasites are killed, any damage done to the joints is permanent, but it does progress unless the person stops the AP. So basically I'm on AP for life. Like tick diseases, those that cause autoimmue issues create cysts in the body where they hide and wait, and some future point when your body is stressed, they break open and flood the body and you have a new case to deal with. So staying on AP for life prevents those new cases.
Ivermectin helps too.
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Laurie Wilson
@Micah6_8
27 December, 11:44
In response Jason Webber to his Publication
My family went thru a lot of herxing when we were being treated for chronic Lyme. I had one daughter on an IV line for 18 months, she was in a wheelchair and severely ill. I thought we were going to lose her :( Finally a combo of IV antibiotics kicked her into remission and now she can walk - but has permanent brain damage (balance and memory mostly, although it affects her speech too). She's such a sweetheart.
Anyway, herxing happens when you kill off massive amounts of bacteria/fungus in the body. All those dead bacteria/fungus flood the blood stream as the body tries to get rid of them quickly, and the blood thickens because of the sheer amount being killed off. This is hard on the kidneys and liver as they are filters, as well as the kidneys clogging up and causing increased BP, nausea, etc. The dead bodies also cause a toxic effect, which causes pain, extreme fatigue, nausea, etc. It's called the herx flu, can be avoided by slowly increasing the meds over 2 weeks so (continued)
Anyway, herxing happens when you kill off massive amounts of bacteria/fungus in the body. All those dead bacteria/fungus flood the blood stream as the body tries to get rid of them quickly, and the blood thickens because of the sheer amount being killed off. This is hard on the kidneys and liver as they are filters, as well as the kidneys clogging up and causing increased BP, nausea, etc. The dead bodies also cause a toxic effect, which causes pain, extreme fatigue, nausea, etc. It's called the herx flu, can be avoided by slowly increasing the meds over 2 weeks so (continued)
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Jason Webber
@Haldir1970
27 December, 11:47
In response Laurie Wilson to her Publication
Thank you so much for this information!
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Laurie Wilson
@Micah6_8
27 December, 11:40
In response Jason Webber to his Publication
I understand what you're saying. I use the injectable livestock ivermectin and take it orally, mixed with water or tea. It has nothing else in it.
I would need to do more research specifically on the horse paste, I avoid that because it is harder to get an accurate dose sometimes (people locally complain it is feast or famine, they either get too much that comes out or not enough - just the syringe type setup is clumsy when trying to get such small doses). So I can't speak directly to the horse paste.
I have used the pill form before, it is pricey (I buy overseas and have it shipped here) but I didn't feel it worked as well as the injectable taken orally did. I don't think it was as strong for one thing, my RA symptoms were worse on the pills so back to the injectable I went!
Feel free to argue with me - sometimes it is the best way for both sides to learn more and share similarities.
Most nurses won't speak up about ivm, it's politically incorrect...
I would need to do more research specifically on the horse paste, I avoid that because it is harder to get an accurate dose sometimes (people locally complain it is feast or famine, they either get too much that comes out or not enough - just the syringe type setup is clumsy when trying to get such small doses). So I can't speak directly to the horse paste.
I have used the pill form before, it is pricey (I buy overseas and have it shipped here) but I didn't feel it worked as well as the injectable taken orally did. I don't think it was as strong for one thing, my RA symptoms were worse on the pills so back to the injectable I went!
Feel free to argue with me - sometimes it is the best way for both sides to learn more and share similarities.
Most nurses won't speak up about ivm, it's politically incorrect...
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Jason Webber
@Haldir1970
27 December, 11:54
In response Laurie Wilson to her Publication
Thank you so much for this.
My own experience using the paste form, has been as you describe - both with dosage and herxing.
Bottom line - your message is not lost on me. We must be careful with “self-dosing” and “self-treatment” with anything, even Ivermectin.
The dosage I mentioned was recommended by a man who has personal experience using Ivermectin for a long time, and the suggested dose allows - again in his experience - to limit (even avoid) herxing, just as you have said.
Wonderful exchange. I have learned something today - THANK YOU! 😀
My own experience using the paste form, has been as you describe - both with dosage and herxing.
Bottom line - your message is not lost on me. We must be careful with “self-dosing” and “self-treatment” with anything, even Ivermectin.
The dosage I mentioned was recommended by a man who has personal experience using Ivermectin for a long time, and the suggested dose allows - again in his experience - to limit (even avoid) herxing, just as you have said.
Wonderful exchange. I have learned something today - THANK YOU! 😀
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